Drug & supplement interaction

English Ivy + Desipramine

Desipramine brand names: Norpramin, Desipramine, Pertofrane.

Moderate Interaction
The bottom line Moderate

Desipramine falls into 2 drug categories that English Ivy can interact with; the most serious is rated moderate. Theoretically, English ivy might increase the levels of drugs metabolized by CYP2C19.

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SeverityModerate
LikelihoodPossible
Interactions2
EvidenceD
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English Ivy and Desipramine

These two interact in 2 distinct ways. Each one is explained separately below.

Why Are There 2 Interactions?

English Ivy interacts with whole categories of medication. Desipramine falls into 2 of those categories, so it can interact with English Ivy in 2 different ways. We’ve listed each one below — your overall risk is driven by the most serious of them (Moderate).

Moderate

CYTOCHROME P450 2C19 (CYP2C19) SUBSTRATES

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Why this applies to Desipramine

Desipramine falls under CYTOCHROME P450 2C19 (CYP2C19) SUBSTRATES — the group English Ivy interacts with.

Theoretically, English ivy might increase the levels of drugs metabolized by CYP2C19.
In vitro research shows that English ivy inhibits CYP2C19 enzymes. So far, this interaction has not been reported in humans.
Severity Moderate Likelihood Possible Evidence D

Interaction has been documented in animal or in lab research, or the interaction has been documented in humans but is limited to case reports or conflicting clinical research exists.

Dr. Brian Staiger, PharmD, BCPS
Dr. Brian Staiger explains PharmD, Clinical Pharmacist

Here's the gist for desipramine (Norpramin). Lab studies suggest English ivy may slow down an enzyme called CYP2C19, which is one of the pathways your body uses to clear desipramine. If that enzyme is blocked, desipramine could build up a bit more than usual. Since this drug is active on its own (not a prodrug), higher levels would mean stronger effects and a greater chance of side effects like dry mouth, constipation, dizziness, drowsiness, a fast or irregular heartbeat, or feeling lightheaded when standing.

That said, this is only a theoretical concern seen in test tubes, never actually reported in real patients, so I wouldn't panic. Still, tricyclics have a fairly narrow safety window, so it's worth a quick check with your pharmacist or doctor before combining them.

References
  1. Rehman SU, Kim IS, Choi MS, Kim SH, Zhang Y, Yoo HH. Time-dependent Inhibition of CYP2C8 and CYP2C19 by Hedera helix Extracts, A Traditional Respiratory Herbal Medicine. Molecules. 2017;22(7). PubMed
Moderate

CYTOCHROME P450 2D6 (CYP2D6) SUBSTRATES

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Desipramine also falls under CYTOCHROME P450 2D6 (CYP2D6) SUBSTRATES.

Theoretically, English ivy might increase the levels of drugs metabolized by CYP2D6.
In vitro research shows that English ivy inhibits CYP2D6 enzymes. So far, this interaction has not been reported in humans.
Severity Moderate Likelihood Possible Evidence D

Interaction has been documented in animal or in lab research, or the interaction has been documented in humans but is limited to case reports or conflicting clinical research exists.

Dr. Brian Staiger, PharmD, BCPS
Dr. Brian Staiger explains PharmD, Clinical Pharmacist

Here's the short version: your body relies on a liver enzyme called CYP2D6 to break down desipramine and keep its levels in check. In lab studies, English ivy appears to slow that same enzyme down. If that happened in real life, desipramine could build up a bit more than usual, which might mean stronger effects and more of its typical side effects, things like dry mouth, constipation, dizziness, a fast or irregular heartbeat, or feeling overly drowsy.

I want to be honest about the strength of this, though. So far this is only seen in test-tube research, not in actual people, so the real-world risk is uncertain. Desipramine is a touchy drug with a narrow safe range, so it's still worth a quick chat with your pharmacist or doctor before combining the two.

References
  1. Rehman SU, Kim IS, Choi MS, Kim SH, Zhang Y, Yoo HH. Time-dependent Inhibition of CYP2C8 and CYP2C19 by Hedera helix Extracts, A Traditional Respiratory Herbal Medicine. Molecules. 2017;22(7). PubMed

What These Ratings Mean

Every interaction above is graded three ways — here’s the key to each label.

Severity how clinically significant the interaction is
Major

Clinically significant. Avoid the combination, or use only under close professional supervision.

Moderate

Usually worth avoiding or managing — may need monitoring, a dose change, or timing apart.

Minor

Generally not serious. Be aware of it and mention it to your pharmacist.

Likelihood how strong the evidence is that the interaction actually happens in people
  • LikelyWell-controlled human studies have demonstrated the likely existence of this interaction.
  • ProbableInteraction has not been documented in well-controlled studies, however, the interaction has been demonstrated in some small human studies or in controlled animal studies in conjunction with multiple case reports.
  • PossibleInteraction has been documented in animal or in lab research, or the interaction has been documented in humans but is limited to case reports or conflicting clinical research exists.
  • UnlikelyInteraction has been demonstrated in animal or in lab research but has been shown not to occur in humans.
Evidence the quality of the studies behind the rating (graded A–D)
  • AHigh-quality meta-analysis (quantitative systematic review).
  • BCase-control study.
  • CConsensus.
  • DAnecdotal evidence.

These ratings are for information only. Never start, stop, or otherwise change your therapy before speaking with your provider.

Keep it in perspective

English Ivy Also Interacts With Other Medications

English Ivy has 279 moderate known drug interactions in our database — the Desipramine one above is among them. If you take anything else, check it against the full list below.

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Everything else you take

See Every Supplement That Interacts With Desipramine

This page covers English Ivy only. If you take other supplements — a multivitamin, a sleep aid, something for joints — the Desipramine page lists 253 supplements it has a documented interaction with, worst first, each one explained.

The most serious there right now: 1,4-butanediol (major), Activated Charcoal (major), American Hellebore (major), Arsenic (major) and Beer (major).

By severity: 16 major · 198 moderate · 39 minor.

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Taking English Ivy as Part of a Dietary Supplement Product? Check It for Interactions

We hold 118 real supplement products containing English Ivy, each one broken down to its full ingredient list — and combination products often carry several ingredients besides English Ivy. Your product may carry other ingredients that interact with Desipramine too, on top of English Ivy — and those would not show on this page. Find your product and we’ll check every ingredient on its label:

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Where English Ivy and Desipramine Sit Against Everything Else

Out of every supplement and medication people look up on HelloPharmacist, here is where these two land this week — and which way each has been moving.

Supplement English Ivy
Steady interest

#912 of 1,452 supplements looked up here in the last 7 days

29 days ago today
Medication Desipramine
Top 25%

#597 of 2,830 medications looked up here in the last 7 days

29 days ago today

Position among everything looked up on this site, not a measure of how commonly either one is used or how important it is. A supplement can climb this list because of a news story. It counts every request to the page, automated ones included, and nothing here identifies anyone.

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About English Ivy

What is English Ivy?

English Ivy
  • Cough and chest congestion
  • Bronchitis
  • Asthma symptoms
  • Sore throat
  • Skin irritation

English ivy leaf extract is most commonly used in cough and cold syrups to help loosen mucus and ease coughing, and it is a popular ingredient in many European herbal products. Some research suggests it may help with certain coughs, but the evidence is still limited and mixed. The raw plant is poisonous if eaten and can irritate skin, so only use properly prepared commercial products and check with your pharmacist first.

Read the full English Ivy monograph & all interactions
Medication

About Desipramine

What Is Desipramine Used For?

Brand names: Norpramin, Desipramine, Pertofrane

Desipramine hydrochloride tablets — sold under brand names including Norpramin, Desipramine HCL, and Desipramine Hydrochloride — are approved to treat depression. All of these products share the same FDA-approved indication.

Desipramine tablets are not approved for use in children. This medication is not recommended in that age group, and the tablet form is intended for adults and, in some cases, adolescents under close medical supervision.

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Other Drugs & English Ivy

Browse every other medication we’ve checked against English Ivy — both the ones with a known interaction and the ones without. Select any drug for the full detail.

0Major
279Moderate
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2,550No known interaction
Moderate

279 interactions

Showing 60 of 279 moderate interactions — see all 279 on the English Ivy page.

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Sources

Sources & How We Checked

Interaction details are evidence-graded and sourced from the Natural Medicines database. The medication overview comes from MedlinePlus.

Content is written and reviewed by licensed HelloPharmacist pharmacists. See our data sources and editorial standards for how this information is built and checked.

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DISCLAIMER: Currently this does not check for drug-drug interactions. This is not an all-inclusive comprehensive list of potential interactions and is for informational purposes only. Not all interactions are known or well-reported in the scientific literature, and new interactions are continually being reported. Input is needed from a qualified healthcare provider including a pharmacist before starting any therapy. Application of clinical judgment is necessary.

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Taking English Ivy and Desipramine Together: Common Questions

Can you take English Ivy with Desipramine?
There is a moderate interaction, so it may be acceptable with monitoring or timing changes — but check with your pharmacist first. Read the full details on this page and confirm with your pharmacist before combining them.
Why are there 2 interactions listed for English Ivy and Desipramine?
Desipramine belongs to more than one drug category, and English Ivy interacts with each of those categories a little differently. We list every one so nothing is missed — your overall risk is driven by the most serious of them.
How serious is the English Ivy and Desipramine interaction?
We rate it Moderate. This combination may require monitoring, a dose adjustment, or separating the times you take each one. Consult your pharmacist before using them together.

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