Thunder God Vine + Etrasimod
Etrasimod brand name: Velsipity.
Etrasimod falls into 2 drug categories that Thunder God Vine can interact with; the most serious is rated moderate. Theoretically, thunder god vine might increase the levels and clinical effects of CYP3A4 substrates.
Read the full interaction reportThunder God Vine and Etrasimod
These two interact in 2 distinct ways. Each one is explained separately below.
Why Are There 2 Interactions?
Thunder God Vine interacts with whole categories of medication. Etrasimod falls into 2 of those categories, so it can interact with Thunder God Vine in 2 different ways. We’ve listed each one below — your overall risk is driven by the most serious of them (Moderate).
CYTOCHROME P450 3A4 (CYP3A4) SUBSTRATES
1 of 2Why this applies to Etrasimod
Etrasimod falls under CYTOCHROME P450 3A4 (CYP3A4) SUBSTRATES — the group Thunder God Vine interacts with.
In vitro research shows that triptolide, a constituent of thunder god vine, inhibits CYP3A4 enzymes in human microsomes. This interaction has not been reported in humans.
Interaction has been documented in animal or in lab research, or the interaction has been documented in humans but is limited to case reports or conflicting clinical research exists.
Here's the idea with these two together. Etrasimod (Velsipity), the pill for ulcerative colitis, is cleared from your body partly by a liver enzyme called CYP3A4. Thunder God Vine contains a compound (triptolide) that can slow that same enzyme down, at least in lab dish studies. If it did the same thing in real life, your body might clear Etrasimod more slowly, letting levels climb a bit higher than expected.
What that could look like: a stronger drop in your heart rate, headache, or a bigger dip in your immune cell counts, which can raise infection risk. I'll be honest though, this is theoretical, based only on test-tube work and not seen in actual patients. Since Thunder God Vine can be toxic on its own, please loop in your doctor or pharmacist before combining them.
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IMMUNOSUPPRESSANTS
2 of 2Etrasimod also falls under IMMUNOSUPPRESSANTS.
Large doses of thunder god vine may suppress immune function.
Interaction has been documented in animal or in lab research, or the interaction has been documented in humans but is limited to case reports or conflicting clinical research exists.
Here's the concern with pairing these two. Etrasimod (Velsipity) already turns down your immune system to treat conditions like ulcerative colitis. Thunder God Vine, at larger supplement doses, may also quiet immune activity. Stack them together and you could be pushing your immune defenses down further than intended, which theoretically raises your risk of infections and could add to side effects like low white blood cell counts.
To be honest, this is a theoretical caution based on how each one works, not on solid studies of the two combined. Still, Thunder God Vine can be toxic if prepared or dosed poorly, so I would not take it alongside Etrasimod without first talking it through with your doctor or pharmacist.
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What These Ratings Mean
Every interaction above is graded three ways — here’s the key to each label.
Clinically significant. Avoid the combination, or use only under close professional supervision.
Usually worth avoiding or managing — may need monitoring, a dose change, or timing apart.
Generally not serious. Be aware of it and mention it to your pharmacist.
- LikelyWell-controlled human studies have demonstrated the likely existence of this interaction.
- ProbableInteraction has not been documented in well-controlled studies, however, the interaction has been demonstrated in some small human studies or in controlled animal studies in conjunction with multiple case reports.
- PossibleInteraction has been documented in animal or in lab research, or the interaction has been documented in humans but is limited to case reports or conflicting clinical research exists.
- UnlikelyInteraction has been demonstrated in animal or in lab research but has been shown not to occur in humans.
- AHigh-quality meta-analysis (quantitative systematic review).
- BCase-control study.
- CConsensus.
- DAnecdotal evidence.
These ratings are for information only. Never start, stop, or otherwise change your therapy before speaking with your provider.
Thunder God Vine Also Interacts With Other Medications
Thunder God Vine has 848 moderate known drug interactions in our database — the Etrasimod one above is among them. If you take anything else, check it against the full list below.
Check Another of Your Medications Against Thunder God Vine
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See Every Supplement That Interacts With Etrasimod
This page covers Thunder God Vine only. If you take other supplements — a multivitamin, a sleep aid, something for joints — the Etrasimod page lists 219 supplements it has a documented interaction with, worst first, each one explained.
The most serious there right now: Activated Charcoal (major), Beer (major), Grapefruit (major), Siberian Cocklebur (major) and St. John's Wort (major).
By severity: 6 major · 176 moderate · 37 minor.
Where Thunder God Vine and Etrasimod Sit Against Everything Else
Out of every supplement and medication people look up on HelloPharmacist, here is where these two land this week — and which way each has been moving.
#1,212 of 1,452 supplements looked up here in the last 7 days
#2,705 of 2,830 medications looked up here in the last 7 days
Position among everything looked up on this site, not a measure of how commonly either one is used or how important it is. A supplement can climb this list because of a news story. It counts every request to the page, automated ones included, and nothing here identifies anyone.
About Thunder God Vine
What is Thunder God Vine?
- Rheumatoid arthritis
- Lupus and autoimmune conditions
- Inflammation
- Skin conditions like psoriasis
- Immune-related disorders
Thunder God Vine is a Chinese herb studied mainly for rheumatoid arthritis and other autoimmune conditions, with some promising but limited evidence. It can be toxic if prepared or dosed improperly, and may cause serious side effects, so it should only be used under medical supervision. Avoid it during pregnancy and breastfeeding.
Other Drugs & Thunder God Vine
Browse every other medication we’ve checked against Thunder God Vine — both the ones with a known interaction and the ones without. Select any drug for the full detail.
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Showing 60 of 848 moderate interactions — see all 848 on the Thunder God Vine page.
No interaction 1,981 drugs checked — show the list
We also checked Thunder God Vine against these medications and found no known interaction in our sources. Open any page to confirm.
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Showing the 60 most looked-up of 1,981 medications checked with no known interaction — see the full Thunder God Vine list.
Sources & How We Checked
Interaction details are evidence-graded and sourced from the Natural Medicines database. The medication overview comes from MedlinePlus.
- Natural Medicines (Therapeutic Research Center) — Evidence-graded clinical reference for vitamins, herbs and supplements — the basis for our interaction data.
- MedlinePlus, U.S. National Library of Medicine — NIH consumer drug information, used for the medication overviews.
- NIH Dietary Supplement Label Database (DSLD) — Official supplement product labels.
Content is written and reviewed by licensed HelloPharmacist pharmacists. See our data sources and editorial standards for how this information is built and checked.
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DISCLAIMER: Currently this does not check for drug-drug interactions. This is not an all-inclusive comprehensive list of potential interactions and is for informational purposes only. Not all interactions are known or well-reported in the scientific literature, and new interactions are continually being reported. Input is needed from a qualified healthcare provider including a pharmacist before starting any therapy. Application of clinical judgment is necessary.
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