Drug & supplement interaction

Thunder God Vine + Remdesivir

Remdesivir brand name: Veklury.

Moderate Interaction
The bottom line Moderate

Remdesivir falls into 2 drug categories that Thunder God Vine can interact with; the most serious is rated moderate. Theoretically, CYP3A4 inhibitors might increase the levels and adverse effects of thunder god vine constituents.

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SeverityModerate
LikelihoodPossible
Interactions2
EvidenceD
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Thunder God Vine and Remdesivir

These two interact in 2 distinct ways. Each one is explained separately below.

Why Are There 2 Interactions?

Thunder God Vine interacts with whole categories of medication. Remdesivir falls into 2 of those categories, so it can interact with Thunder God Vine in 2 different ways. We’ve listed each one below — your overall risk is driven by the most serious of them (Moderate).

Moderate

CYTOCHROME P450 3A4 (CYP3A4) INHIBITORS

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Why this applies to Remdesivir

Remdesivir falls under CYTOCHROME P450 3A4 (CYP3A4) INHIBITORS — the group Thunder God Vine interacts with.

Theoretically, CYP3A4 inhibitors might increase the levels and adverse effects of thunder god vine constituents.
Inhibitors of CYP3A4 can increase the concentration of triptolide, a thunder god vine constituent, and its derivative (5R)-5-hydroxytriptolide. In vitro research shows that triptolide and (5R)-5-hydroxytriptolide are about 94% and 64% metabolized by CYP3A4, respectively.
Severity Moderate Likelihood Possible Evidence D

Interaction has been documented in animal or in lab research, or the interaction has been documented in humans but is limited to case reports or conflicting clinical research exists.

Dr. Brian Staiger, PharmD, BCPS
Dr. Brian Staiger explains PharmD, Clinical Pharmacist

Here's the key thing to understand: in this pairing, it's the Thunder God Vine that may be affected, not the Remdesivir. This herb's active compounds (like triptolide) are largely broken down by an enzyme called CYP3A4. Remdesivir can act as a mild blocker of that same enzyme, so in theory it could slow the clearance of those herbal compounds and let them build up.

Why that matters: Thunder God Vine can already be quite toxic if levels run too high, causing things like stomach upset, liver stress, and other serious effects. So higher levels are not something you want. That said, this is a theoretical concern based on lab data, not real-world reports. Remdesivir is also usually a short hospital course. Still, please loop in your doctor or pharmacist before combining the two.

References
  1. Xu Y, Zhang YF, Chen XY, Zhong DF. CYP3A4 inducer and inhibitor strongly affect the pharmacokinetics of triptolide and its derivative in rats. Acta Pharmacol Sin. 2018;39(8):1386-1392. PubMed
Moderate

CYTOCHROME P450 3A4 (CYP3A4) SUBSTRATES

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Remdesivir also falls under CYTOCHROME P450 3A4 (CYP3A4) SUBSTRATES.

Theoretically, thunder god vine might increase the levels and clinical effects of CYP3A4 substrates.
In vitro research shows that triptolide, a constituent of thunder god vine, inhibits CYP3A4 enzymes in human microsomes. This interaction has not been reported in humans.
Severity Moderate Likelihood Possible Evidence D

Interaction has been documented in animal or in lab research, or the interaction has been documented in humans but is limited to case reports or conflicting clinical research exists.

Dr. Brian Staiger, PharmD, BCPS
Dr. Brian Staiger explains PharmD, Clinical Pharmacist

Here's the gist for Remdesivir (Veklury). This antiviral is partly handled by a liver enzyme called CYP3A4. Lab studies (done in test tubes, not in people) suggest a compound in Thunder God Vine called triptolide can slow that enzyme down. If that happened in the body, remdesivir might clear a bit slower and its levels could edge up, which could mean a higher chance of side effects like nausea or changes in liver-related blood tests.

Honestly, this is theoretical and has never been reported in real patients. On top of that, remdesivir is given in the hospital or a monitored setting for COVID-19, so it's a short, supervised course. Still, mention any supplements to your care team so they can keep an eye on things.

References
  1. Song W, Liu M, Wu J, Zhai H, Chen Y, Peng Z. Preclinical Pharmacokinetics of Triptolide: A Potential Antitumor Drug. Curr Drug Metab. 2019;20(2):147-154. PubMed

What These Ratings Mean

Every interaction above is graded three ways — here’s the key to each label.

Severity how clinically significant the interaction is
Major

Clinically significant. Avoid the combination, or use only under close professional supervision.

Moderate

Usually worth avoiding or managing — may need monitoring, a dose change, or timing apart.

Minor

Generally not serious. Be aware of it and mention it to your pharmacist.

Likelihood how strong the evidence is that the interaction actually happens in people
  • LikelyWell-controlled human studies have demonstrated the likely existence of this interaction.
  • ProbableInteraction has not been documented in well-controlled studies, however, the interaction has been demonstrated in some small human studies or in controlled animal studies in conjunction with multiple case reports.
  • PossibleInteraction has been documented in animal or in lab research, or the interaction has been documented in humans but is limited to case reports or conflicting clinical research exists.
  • UnlikelyInteraction has been demonstrated in animal or in lab research but has been shown not to occur in humans.
Evidence the quality of the studies behind the rating (graded A–D)
  • AHigh-quality meta-analysis (quantitative systematic review).
  • BCase-control study.
  • CConsensus.
  • DAnecdotal evidence.

These ratings are for information only. Never start, stop, or otherwise change your therapy before speaking with your provider.

Keep it in perspective

Thunder God Vine Also Interacts With Other Medications

Thunder God Vine has 848 moderate known drug interactions in our database — the Remdesivir one above is among them. If you take anything else, check it against the full list below.

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See Every Supplement That Interacts With Remdesivir

This page covers Thunder God Vine only. If you take other supplements — a multivitamin, a sleep aid, something for joints — the Remdesivir page lists 140 supplements it has a documented interaction with, worst first, each one explained.

The most serious there right now: American Hellebore (major), Arsenic (major), Cesium (major), Ephedra (major) and Grapefruit (major).

By severity: 7 major · 105 moderate · 28 minor.

From our pharmacist’s overview on the Remdesivir page

“Remdesivir (Veklury) is an IV antiviral for serious COVID-19, and people receiving it have often spent the prior week loading up on elderberry and other immune boosters, a habit that deserves a hard look here. Seven of the 140 supplement ingredients on file are rated major, and those seven are the ones to understand first.”

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How much people look this up

Where Thunder God Vine and Remdesivir Sit Against Everything Else

Out of every supplement and medication people look up on HelloPharmacist, here is where these two land this week — and which way each has been moving.

Supplement Thunder God Vine
Steady interest

#998 of 1,452 supplements looked up here in the last 7 days

29 days ago today
Medication Remdesivir
Steady interest

#1,668 of 2,830 medications looked up here in the last 7 days

29 days ago today

Position among everything looked up on this site, not a measure of how commonly either one is used or how important it is. A supplement can climb this list because of a news story. It counts every request to the page, automated ones included, and nothing here identifies anyone.

Supplement

About Thunder God Vine

What is Thunder God Vine?

Thunder God Vine
  • Rheumatoid arthritis
  • Lupus and autoimmune conditions
  • Inflammation
  • Skin conditions like psoriasis
  • Immune-related disorders

Thunder God Vine is a Chinese herb studied mainly for rheumatoid arthritis and other autoimmune conditions, with some promising but limited evidence. It can be toxic if prepared or dosed improperly, and may cause serious side effects, so it should only be used under medical supervision. Avoid it during pregnancy and breastfeeding.

Read the full Thunder God Vine monograph & all interactions
Medication

About Remdesivir Injection

What Is Remdesivir Injection Used For?

Brand name: Veklury

Veklury (remdesivir) is given by IV infusion to treat COVID-19 caused by the SARS-CoV-2 virus. It is approved for adults and for children from birth through age 17 who weigh at least 1.5 kg (about 3.3 lbs).

Veklury can be used for patients who are hospitalized with COVID-19, or for patients who are not hospitalized but have mild-to-moderate COVID-19 and are at high risk of getting worse — including being hospitalized or dying from the disease.

See full Remdesivir Injection drug information
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Other Drugs & Thunder God Vine

Browse every other medication we’ve checked against Thunder God Vine — both the ones with a known interaction and the ones without. Select any drug for the full detail.

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848Moderate
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1,981No known interaction
Moderate

848 interactions

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Sources & How We Checked

Interaction details are evidence-graded and sourced from the Natural Medicines database. The medication overview comes from MedlinePlus.

Content is written and reviewed by licensed HelloPharmacist pharmacists. See our data sources and editorial standards for how this information is built and checked.

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DISCLAIMER: Currently this does not check for drug-drug interactions. This is not an all-inclusive comprehensive list of potential interactions and is for informational purposes only. Not all interactions are known or well-reported in the scientific literature, and new interactions are continually being reported. Input is needed from a qualified healthcare provider including a pharmacist before starting any therapy. Application of clinical judgment is necessary.

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Taking Thunder God Vine and Remdesivir Together: Common Questions

Can you take Thunder God Vine with Remdesivir?
There is a moderate interaction, so it may be acceptable with monitoring or timing changes — but check with your pharmacist first. Read the full details on this page and confirm with your pharmacist before combining them.
Why are there 2 interactions listed for Thunder God Vine and Remdesivir?
Remdesivir belongs to more than one drug category, and Thunder God Vine interacts with each of those categories a little differently. We list every one so nothing is missed — your overall risk is driven by the most serious of them.
How serious is the Thunder God Vine and Remdesivir interaction?
We rate it Moderate. This combination may require monitoring, a dose adjustment, or separating the times you take each one. Consult your pharmacist before using them together.

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