Drug & supplement interaction

Thunder God Vine + Drospirenone, Ethinyl Estradiol

Drospirenone, Ethinyl Estradiol brand names: Yasmin, Gianvi, Angeliq.

Moderate Interaction
The bottom line Moderate

Drospirenone, Ethinyl Estradiol falls into 3 drug categories that Thunder God Vine can interact with; the most serious is rated moderate. Theoretically, thunder god vine might increase the levels and clinical effects of CYP1A2 substrates.

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SeverityModerate
LikelihoodPossible
Interactions3
EvidenceD
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Thunder God Vine and Drospirenone, Ethinyl Estradiol

These two interact in 3 distinct ways. Each one is explained separately below.

Why Are There 3 Interactions?

Thunder God Vine interacts with whole categories of medication. Drospirenone, Ethinyl Estradiol falls into 3 of those categories, so it can interact with Thunder God Vine in 3 different ways. We’ve listed each one below — your overall risk is driven by the most serious of them (Moderate).

Moderate

CYTOCHROME P450 1A2 (CYP1A2) SUBSTRATES

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Why this applies to Drospirenone, Ethinyl Estradiol

Drospirenone, Ethinyl Estradiol falls under CYTOCHROME P450 1A2 (CYP1A2) SUBSTRATES — the group Thunder God Vine interacts with.

Theoretically, thunder god vine might increase the levels and clinical effects of CYP1A2 substrates.
In vitro research shows that triptolide, a constituent of thunder god vine, inhibits CYP1A2 enzymes in human microsomes. This interaction has not been reported in humans.
Severity Moderate Likelihood Possible Evidence D

Interaction has been documented in animal or in lab research, or the interaction has been documented in humans but is limited to case reports or conflicting clinical research exists.

Dr. Brian Staiger, PharmD, BCPS
Dr. Brian Staiger explains PharmD, Clinical Pharmacist

Here's the gist with your birth control pill (Yasmin, Gianvi, and similar combos). Thunder God Vine has a lab-only ability to slow down an enzyme called CYP1A2, which is one of the pathways your body uses to clear the estrogen part of your pill. In theory, blocking that pathway could let estrogen levels drift a little higher, which might mean more of the usual estrogen-related complaints like nausea, breast tenderness, headaches, or bloating.

The important part: this is only a theoretical concern seen in test tubes, not something reported in real people. Still, Thunder God Vine itself can be genuinely toxic if it's not prepared and dosed correctly, so please loop in your doctor or pharmacist before combining the two.

References
  1. Song W, Liu M, Wu J, Zhai H, Chen Y, Peng Z. Preclinical Pharmacokinetics of Triptolide: A Potential Antitumor Drug. Curr Drug Metab. 2019;20(2):147-154. PubMed
Moderate

CYTOCHROME P450 3A4 (CYP3A4) INHIBITORS

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Drospirenone, Ethinyl Estradiol also falls under CYTOCHROME P450 3A4 (CYP3A4) INHIBITORS.

Theoretically, CYP3A4 inhibitors might increase the levels and adverse effects of thunder god vine constituents.
Inhibitors of CYP3A4 can increase the concentration of triptolide, a thunder god vine constituent, and its derivative (5R)-5-hydroxytriptolide. In vitro research shows that triptolide and (5R)-5-hydroxytriptolide are about 94% and 64% metabolized by CYP3A4, respectively.
Severity Moderate Likelihood Possible Evidence D

Interaction has been documented in animal or in lab research, or the interaction has been documented in humans but is limited to case reports or conflicting clinical research exists.

Dr. Brian Staiger, PharmD, BCPS
Dr. Brian Staiger explains PharmD, Clinical Pharmacist

Here's the thing to keep in mind with this pairing: your birth control pill, the drospirenone and ethinyl estradiol combo (brands like Yasmin or Gianvi), gently slows down an enzyme in your liver called CYP3A4. Thunder God Vine's active compounds, especially triptolide, rely heavily on that same enzyme to get broken down and cleared out. So in theory, taking them together could let the herb's compounds build up higher than expected.

Why that matters: Thunder God Vine can already be hard on the body, with stomach upset, diarrhea, and at higher exposure more serious toxicity. More of it sticking around could mean more of those effects, not a problem with your pill itself. This is a theoretical concern based on lab data, not proven in people, but since this herb needs medical supervision anyway, please loop in your doctor or pharmacist before combining them.

References
  1. Xu Y, Zhang YF, Chen XY, Zhong DF. CYP3A4 inducer and inhibitor strongly affect the pharmacokinetics of triptolide and its derivative in rats. Acta Pharmacol Sin. 2018;39(8):1386-1392. PubMed
Moderate

CYTOCHROME P450 3A4 (CYP3A4) SUBSTRATES

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Drospirenone, Ethinyl Estradiol also falls under CYTOCHROME P450 3A4 (CYP3A4) SUBSTRATES.

Theoretically, thunder god vine might increase the levels and clinical effects of CYP3A4 substrates.
In vitro research shows that triptolide, a constituent of thunder god vine, inhibits CYP3A4 enzymes in human microsomes. This interaction has not been reported in humans.
Severity Moderate Likelihood Possible Evidence D

Interaction has been documented in animal or in lab research, or the interaction has been documented in humans but is limited to case reports or conflicting clinical research exists.

Dr. Brian Staiger, PharmD, BCPS
Dr. Brian Staiger explains PharmD, Clinical Pharmacist

Here's the gist for your birth control pill (Yasmin, Gianvi, and similar). Both the drospirenone and the ethinyl estradiol in these pills are cleared by a liver enzyme called CYP3A4. In lab dish studies, a compound in Thunder God Vine (triptolide) appears to slow that enzyme down. If that held true in the body, your hormone levels could creep up a bit, which might mean more of the usual estrogen-type side effects like nausea, breast tenderness, headaches, or bloating.

I want to be honest about how shaky this is. This is purely theoretical, based on test-tube data, and it has never actually been reported in a real person. It is not a strong red flag. Still, since Thunder God Vine can be quite potent on its own, please run this combo by your pharmacist or doctor before mixing them.

References
  1. Song W, Liu M, Wu J, Zhai H, Chen Y, Peng Z. Preclinical Pharmacokinetics of Triptolide: A Potential Antitumor Drug. Curr Drug Metab. 2019;20(2):147-154. PubMed

What These Ratings Mean

Every interaction above is graded three ways — here’s the key to each label.

Severity how clinically significant the interaction is
Major

Clinically significant. Avoid the combination, or use only under close professional supervision.

Moderate

Usually worth avoiding or managing — may need monitoring, a dose change, or timing apart.

Minor

Generally not serious. Be aware of it and mention it to your pharmacist.

Likelihood how strong the evidence is that the interaction actually happens in people
  • LikelyWell-controlled human studies have demonstrated the likely existence of this interaction.
  • ProbableInteraction has not been documented in well-controlled studies, however, the interaction has been demonstrated in some small human studies or in controlled animal studies in conjunction with multiple case reports.
  • PossibleInteraction has been documented in animal or in lab research, or the interaction has been documented in humans but is limited to case reports or conflicting clinical research exists.
  • UnlikelyInteraction has been demonstrated in animal or in lab research but has been shown not to occur in humans.
Evidence the quality of the studies behind the rating (graded A–D)
  • AHigh-quality meta-analysis (quantitative systematic review).
  • BCase-control study.
  • CConsensus.
  • DAnecdotal evidence.

These ratings are for information only. Never start, stop, or otherwise change your therapy before speaking with your provider.

Keep it in perspective

Thunder God Vine Also Interacts With Other Medications

Thunder God Vine has 848 moderate known drug interactions in our database — the Drospirenone, Ethinyl Estradiol one above is among them. If you take anything else, check it against the full list below.

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See Every Supplement That Interacts With Drospirenone, Ethinyl Estradiol

This page covers Thunder God Vine only. If you take other supplements — a multivitamin, a sleep aid, something for joints — the Drospirenone, Ethinyl Estradiol page lists 245 supplements it has a documented interaction with, worst first, each one explained.

The most serious there right now: Activated Charcoal (major), Beer (major), Grapefruit (major), Siberian Cocklebur (major) and St. John's Wort (major).

By severity: 6 major · 200 moderate · 39 minor.

From our pharmacist’s overview on the Drospirenone, Ethinyl Estradiol page

“Yasmin and similar drospirenone plus ethinyl estradiol pills only prevent pregnancy while hormone levels stay where they should, so read this list with real care, starting with the six entries rated major out of 245 on file. St.”

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Where Thunder God Vine and Drospirenone, Ethinyl Estradiol Sit Against Everything Else

Out of every supplement and medication people look up on HelloPharmacist, here is where these two land this week — and which way each has been moving.

Supplement Thunder God Vine
Steady interest

#1,204 of 1,452 supplements looked up here in the last 7 days

29 days ago today
Medication Drospirenone, Ethinyl Estradiol
Top half

#1,276 of 2,830 medications looked up here in the last 7 days

29 days ago today

Position among everything looked up on this site, not a measure of how commonly either one is used or how important it is. A supplement can climb this list because of a news story. It counts every request to the page, automated ones included, and nothing here identifies anyone.

Supplement

About Thunder God Vine

What is Thunder God Vine?

Thunder God Vine
  • Rheumatoid arthritis
  • Lupus and autoimmune conditions
  • Inflammation
  • Skin conditions like psoriasis
  • Immune-related disorders

Thunder God Vine is a Chinese herb studied mainly for rheumatoid arthritis and other autoimmune conditions, with some promising but limited evidence. It can be toxic if prepared or dosed improperly, and may cause serious side effects, so it should only be used under medical supervision. Avoid it during pregnancy and breastfeeding.

Read the full Thunder God Vine monograph & all interactions
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Other Drugs & Thunder God Vine

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848Moderate
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1,981No known interaction
Moderate

848 interactions

Showing 60 of 848 moderate interactions — see all 848 on the Thunder God Vine page.

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Sources & How We Checked

Interaction details are evidence-graded and sourced from the Natural Medicines database. The medication overview comes from MedlinePlus.

Content is written and reviewed by licensed HelloPharmacist pharmacists. See our data sources and editorial standards for how this information is built and checked.

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DISCLAIMER: Currently this does not check for drug-drug interactions. This is not an all-inclusive comprehensive list of potential interactions and is for informational purposes only. Not all interactions are known or well-reported in the scientific literature, and new interactions are continually being reported. Input is needed from a qualified healthcare provider including a pharmacist before starting any therapy. Application of clinical judgment is necessary.

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Taking Thunder God Vine and Drospirenone, Ethinyl Estradiol Together: Common Questions

Can you take Thunder God Vine with Drospirenone, Ethinyl Estradiol?
There is a moderate interaction, so it may be acceptable with monitoring or timing changes — but check with your pharmacist first. Read the full details on this page and confirm with your pharmacist before combining them.
Why are there 3 interactions listed for Thunder God Vine and Drospirenone, Ethinyl Estradiol?
Drospirenone, Ethinyl Estradiol belongs to more than one drug category, and Thunder God Vine interacts with each of those categories a little differently. We list every one so nothing is missed — your overall risk is driven by the most serious of them.
How serious is the Thunder God Vine and Drospirenone, Ethinyl Estradiol interaction?
We rate it Moderate. This combination may require monitoring, a dose adjustment, or separating the times you take each one. Consult your pharmacist before using them together.

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