Thunder God Vine + Siponimod
Siponimod brand name: Mayzent.
Siponimod falls into 2 drug categories that Thunder God Vine can interact with; the most serious is rated moderate. Theoretically, thunder god vine might increase the levels and clinical effects of CYP3A4 substrates.
Read the full interaction reportThunder God Vine and Siponimod
These two interact in 2 distinct ways. Each one is explained separately below.
Why Are There 2 Interactions?
Thunder God Vine interacts with whole categories of medication. Siponimod falls into 2 of those categories, so it can interact with Thunder God Vine in 2 different ways. We’ve listed each one below — your overall risk is driven by the most serious of them (Moderate).
CYTOCHROME P450 3A4 (CYP3A4) SUBSTRATES
1 of 2Why this applies to Siponimod
Siponimod falls under CYTOCHROME P450 3A4 (CYP3A4) SUBSTRATES — the group Thunder God Vine interacts with.
In vitro research shows that triptolide, a constituent of thunder god vine, inhibits CYP3A4 enzymes in human microsomes. This interaction has not been reported in humans.
Interaction has been documented in animal or in lab research, or the interaction has been documented in humans but is limited to case reports or conflicting clinical research exists.
Here's the gist with Thunder God Vine and Mayzent (siponimod). Your body clears siponimod partly through a liver enzyme called CYP3A4. Lab studies (done in test tubes, not real people) suggest a compound in Thunder God Vine called triptolide may slow that enzyme down. If that happened in the body, siponimod could build up a bit, which might mean stronger effects and more side effects like a slower heart rate, headache, dizziness, higher blood pressure, or changes in your liver tests.
I want to be honest: this is theoretical and hasn't been reported in actual patients, so don't panic. Still, siponimod is a serious medication and Thunder God Vine itself can be toxic, so please check with your doctor or pharmacist before pairing them.
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IMMUNOSUPPRESSANTS
2 of 2Siponimod also falls under IMMUNOSUPPRESSANTS.
Large doses of thunder god vine may suppress immune function.
Interaction has been documented in animal or in lab research, or the interaction has been documented in humans but is limited to case reports or conflicting clinical research exists.
Here's the gist for Siponimod (Mayzent): this MS medicine already dials down your immune system to protect your nerves. Thunder God Vine appears to do something similar, since its compounds calm immune activity too. So the worry isn't that one cancels the other out, it's that stacking them could push immune suppression too far.
If that happened, you might be more prone to infections, which is the main thing we watch for with Siponimod. I want to be honest though: this concern is theoretical, based on how each one works rather than real-world reports, so we don't have proof it actually causes trouble together. Still, the herb itself can be toxic if dosed wrong, so please don't start it without first checking with your neurologist or pharmacist.
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What These Ratings Mean
Every interaction above is graded three ways — here’s the key to each label.
Clinically significant. Avoid the combination, or use only under close professional supervision.
Usually worth avoiding or managing — may need monitoring, a dose change, or timing apart.
Generally not serious. Be aware of it and mention it to your pharmacist.
- LikelyWell-controlled human studies have demonstrated the likely existence of this interaction.
- ProbableInteraction has not been documented in well-controlled studies, however, the interaction has been demonstrated in some small human studies or in controlled animal studies in conjunction with multiple case reports.
- PossibleInteraction has been documented in animal or in lab research, or the interaction has been documented in humans but is limited to case reports or conflicting clinical research exists.
- UnlikelyInteraction has been demonstrated in animal or in lab research but has been shown not to occur in humans.
- AHigh-quality meta-analysis (quantitative systematic review).
- BCase-control study.
- CConsensus.
- DAnecdotal evidence.
These ratings are for information only. Never start, stop, or otherwise change your therapy before speaking with your provider.
Thunder God Vine Also Interacts With Other Medications
Thunder God Vine has 848 moderate known drug interactions in our database — the Siponimod one above is among them. If you take anything else, check it against the full list below.
Check Another of Your Medications Against Thunder God Vine
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Covers the 2,830 medications we’ve checked against Thunder God Vine. Pick one to open its full report.
See Every Supplement That Interacts With Siponimod
This page covers Thunder God Vine only. If you take other supplements — a multivitamin, a sleep aid, something for joints — the Siponimod page lists 190 supplements it has a documented interaction with, worst first, each one explained.
The most serious there right now: Activated Charcoal (major), Grapefruit (major), St. John's Wort (major), Acacia Rigidula (moderate) and Active Hexose Correlated Compound (ahcc) (moderate).
By severity: 3 major · 147 moderate · 40 minor.
From our pharmacist’s overview on the Siponimod page
“Siponimod (Mayzent) treats secondary progressive multiple sclerosis, and because its blood level depends heavily on two liver enzymes, this is a supplement list to respect. Most of these entries can nudge siponimod levels up or down; the three rated major are grapefruit, which raises them, St.”
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Where Thunder God Vine and Siponimod Sit Against Everything Else
Out of every supplement and medication people look up on HelloPharmacist, here is where these two land this week — and which way each has been moving.
#1,167 of 1,452 supplements looked up here in the last 7 days
#2,554 of 2,830 medications looked up here in the last 7 days
Position among everything looked up on this site, not a measure of how commonly either one is used or how important it is. A supplement can climb this list because of a news story. It counts every request to the page, automated ones included, and nothing here identifies anyone.
About Thunder God Vine
What is Thunder God Vine?
- Rheumatoid arthritis
- Lupus and autoimmune conditions
- Inflammation
- Skin conditions like psoriasis
- Immune-related disorders
Thunder God Vine is a Chinese herb studied mainly for rheumatoid arthritis and other autoimmune conditions, with some promising but limited evidence. It can be toxic if prepared or dosed improperly, and may cause serious side effects, so it should only be used under medical supervision. Avoid it during pregnancy and breastfeeding.
About Siponimod
What Is Siponimod Used For?
Brand name: Mayzent
Mayzent (siponimod) is approved for adults with relapsing forms of multiple sclerosis (MS). This includes three specific types: clinically isolated syndrome (a first episode of MS-like symptoms), relapsing-remitting MS (periods of attacks followed by recovery), and active secondary progressive MS (a phase where the disease gradually worsens but still has active relapses).
It is taken by mouth once daily and is intended as a long-term treatment to reduce relapses and slow disease progression.
Other Drugs & Thunder God Vine
Browse every other medication we’ve checked against Thunder God Vine — both the ones with a known interaction and the ones without. Select any drug for the full detail.
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Showing 60 of 848 moderate interactions — see all 848 on the Thunder God Vine page.
No interaction 1,981 drugs checked — show the list
We also checked Thunder God Vine against these medications and found no known interaction in our sources. Open any page to confirm.
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Showing the 60 most looked-up of 1,981 medications checked with no known interaction — see the full Thunder God Vine list.
Sources & How We Checked
Interaction details are evidence-graded and sourced from the Natural Medicines database. The medication overview comes from MedlinePlus.
- Natural Medicines (Therapeutic Research Center) — Evidence-graded clinical reference for vitamins, herbs and supplements — the basis for our interaction data.
- MedlinePlus, U.S. National Library of Medicine — NIH consumer drug information, used for the medication overviews.
- NIH Dietary Supplement Label Database (DSLD) — Official supplement product labels.
Content is written and reviewed by licensed HelloPharmacist pharmacists. See our data sources and editorial standards for how this information is built and checked.
Parts of this content are provided by the Therapeutic Research Center, LLC.
DISCLAIMER: Currently this does not check for drug-drug interactions. This is not an all-inclusive comprehensive list of potential interactions and is for informational purposes only. Not all interactions are known or well-reported in the scientific literature, and new interactions are continually being reported. Input is needed from a qualified healthcare provider including a pharmacist before starting any therapy. Application of clinical judgment is necessary.
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