Drug & supplement interaction

Thuja + Penicillin V Potassium

Penicillin V Potassium brand names: V-Cillin K, Veetids, Pen VK, Beepen-VK, Ledercillin, and others.

Moderate Interaction
The bottom line Moderate

Thuja has a moderate interaction with Penicillin V Potassium. Thuja products can contains significant amounts of thujone, a neurotoxin.

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SeverityModerate
LikelihoodPossible
EvidenceD
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Thuja and Penicillin V Potassium

Here is the interaction we found between these two, with the evidence behind it.

Moderate

SEIZURE THRESHOLD LOWERING DRUGS

Why this applies to Penicillin V Potassium

Penicillin V Potassium falls under SEIZURE THRESHOLD LOWERING DRUGS — the group Thuja interacts with.

Thuja products can contains significant amounts of thujone, a neurotoxin. Theoretically, patients taking drugs that lower the seizure threshold might be at greater risk of seizure if they also take thuja. Advise patients taking these drugs to avoid thuja products. Some drugs that lower the seizure threshold include anesthetics (propofol, others), antiarrhythmics (mexiletine), antibiotics (amphotericin, penicillin, cephalosporins, imipenem), antidepressants (bupropion, others), antihistamines (cyproheptadine, others), immunosuppressants (cyclosporine), narcotics (fentanyl, others), stimulants (methylphenidate), theophylline, and others.
Severity Moderate Likelihood Possible Evidence D

Interaction has been documented in animal or in lab research, or the interaction has been documented in humans but is limited to case reports or conflicting clinical research exists.

Dr. Brian Staiger, PharmD, BCPS
Dr. Brian Staiger explains PharmD, Clinical Pharmacist

Here's the gist with Penicillin V (Pen VK): penicillin antibiotics, especially at higher doses, can slightly lower your seizure threshold, meaning they can make the brain a little more prone to a seizure. Thuja products may contain thujone, which is a known neurotoxin. Put the two together and, at least in theory, you could be nudging that seizure risk a bit higher.

I want to be honest about the strength of this: it's based on anecdotal reports and reasoning, not solid studies, so for most people taking a normal course of penicillin it's a low concern. Still, concentrated thuja oil or supplements are the worrisome part, not a trace in food. To be safe, I'd skip thuja supplements while you're on your antibiotic and check with your pharmacist or doctor first.

References
  1. Millet Y, Jouglard J, Steinmetz MD, et al. Toxicity of some essential plant oils. Clinical and experimental study. Clin Toxicol 1981;18:1485-98. PubMed

What These Ratings Mean

Every interaction above is graded three ways — here’s the key to each label.

Severity how clinically significant the interaction is
Major

Clinically significant. Avoid the combination, or use only under close professional supervision.

Moderate

Usually worth avoiding or managing — may need monitoring, a dose change, or timing apart.

Minor

Generally not serious. Be aware of it and mention it to your pharmacist.

Likelihood how strong the evidence is that the interaction actually happens in people
  • LikelyWell-controlled human studies have demonstrated the likely existence of this interaction.
  • ProbableInteraction has not been documented in well-controlled studies, however, the interaction has been demonstrated in some small human studies or in controlled animal studies in conjunction with multiple case reports.
  • PossibleInteraction has been documented in animal or in lab research, or the interaction has been documented in humans but is limited to case reports or conflicting clinical research exists.
  • UnlikelyInteraction has been demonstrated in animal or in lab research but has been shown not to occur in humans.
Evidence the quality of the studies behind the rating (graded A–D)
  • AHigh-quality meta-analysis (quantitative systematic review).
  • BCase-control study.
  • CConsensus.
  • DAnecdotal evidence.

These ratings are for information only. Never start, stop, or otherwise change your therapy before speaking with your provider.

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Thuja Also Interacts With Other Medications

Thuja has 575 moderate known drug interactions in our database — the Penicillin V Potassium one above is one of them. If you take anything else, check it against the full list below.

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See Every Supplement That Interacts With Penicillin V Potassium

This page covers Thuja only. If you take other supplements — a multivitamin, a sleep aid, something for joints — the Penicillin V Potassium page lists 56 supplements it has a documented interaction with, worst first, each one explained.

The most serious there right now: Activated Charcoal (major), Asarabacca (major), Siberian Cocklebur (major), Aristolochia (moderate) and Bacillus Coagulans (moderate).

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Taking Thuja as Part of a Dietary Supplement Product? Check It for Interactions

We hold 84 real supplement products containing Thuja, each one broken down to its full ingredient list — and combination products often carry several ingredients besides Thuja. Your product may carry other ingredients that interact with Penicillin V Potassium too, on top of Thuja — and those would not show on this page. Find your product and we’ll check every ingredient on its label:

How much people look this up

Where Thuja and Penicillin V Potassium Sit Against Everything Else

Out of every supplement and medication people look up on HelloPharmacist, here is where these two land this week — and which way each has been moving.

Supplement Thuja
Top half

#547 of 1,452 supplements looked up here in the last 7 days

29 days ago today
Medication Penicillin V Potassium
Steady interest

#2,128 of 2,830 medications looked up here in the last 7 days

29 days ago today

Position among everything looked up on this site, not a measure of how commonly either one is used or how important it is. A supplement can climb this list because of a news story. It counts every request to the page, automated ones included, and nothing here identifies anyone.

Supplement

About Thuja

What is Thuja?

  • Warts and skin growths
  • Respiratory and immune support
  • Cold and upper respiratory symptoms
  • Topical skin conditions
  • Traditional use as a diuretic or to bring on menstruation

Thuja, also called northern white cedar or arborvitae, is a tree whose leaf and oil have a long history in folk and homeopathic medicine, especially for warts and immune support. Solid human evidence for these uses is very limited, and the undiluted oil contains thujone, which can be toxic. Talk with a pharmacist or doctor before using it, and avoid it during pregnancy and breastfeeding.

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Medication

About Penicillin V Potassium

What Is Penicillin V Potassium Used For?

Brand names: V-Cillin K, Veetids, Pen VK, Beepen-VK, Ledercillin, Pen-Vee K

Penicillin V Potassium treats mild to moderately severe bacterial infections caused by penicillin-sensitive bacteria. These include streptococcal infections (such as strep throat and scarlet fever), pneumococcal respiratory infections, mild staphylococcal skin and soft-tissue infections, and fusospirochetosis (Vincent's gingivitis and pharyngitis — a mouth and throat infection).

It is also used as a preventive (prophylactic) therapy: on an ongoing basis to prevent rheumatic fever and chorea from coming back, and — as suggested by the American Heart Association and American Dental Association — to help guard against bacterial endocarditis (infection of the heart valves) in certain patients with heart conditions undergoing dental or upper respiratory tract procedures. It should not be used this way in patients at particularly high risk, such as those with prosthetic heart valves.

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Other Drugs & Thuja

Browse every other medication we’ve checked against Thuja — both the ones with a known interaction and the ones without. Select any drug for the full detail.

0Major
575Moderate
0Minor
2,254No known interaction
Moderate

575 interactions

Showing 60 of 575 moderate interactions — see all 575 on the Thuja page.

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Sources & How We Checked

Interaction details are evidence-graded and sourced from the Natural Medicines database. The medication overview comes from MedlinePlus.

Content is written and reviewed by licensed HelloPharmacist pharmacists. See our data sources and editorial standards for how this information is built and checked.

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DISCLAIMER: Currently this does not check for drug-drug interactions. This is not an all-inclusive comprehensive list of potential interactions and is for informational purposes only. Not all interactions are known or well-reported in the scientific literature, and new interactions are continually being reported. Input is needed from a qualified healthcare provider including a pharmacist before starting any therapy. Application of clinical judgment is necessary.

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Taking Thuja and Penicillin V Potassium Together: Common Questions

Can you take Thuja with Penicillin V Potassium?
There is a moderate interaction, so it may be acceptable with monitoring or timing changes — but check with your pharmacist first. Read the full details on this page and confirm with your pharmacist before combining them.
How serious is the Thuja and Penicillin V Potassium interaction?
We rate it Moderate. This combination may require monitoring, a dose adjustment, or separating the times you take each one. Consult your pharmacist before using them together.

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