Drug & supplement interaction

Thunder God Vine + Temsirolimus

Temsirolimus brand name: Torisel.

Moderate Interaction
The bottom line Moderate

Temsirolimus falls into 2 drug categories that Thunder God Vine can interact with; the most serious is rated moderate. Theoretically, thunder god vine might increase the levels and clinical effects of CYP3A4 substrates.

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SeverityModerate
LikelihoodPossible
Interactions2
EvidenceD
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Thunder God Vine and Temsirolimus

These two interact in 2 distinct ways. Each one is explained separately below.

Why Are There 2 Interactions?

Thunder God Vine interacts with whole categories of medication. Temsirolimus falls into 2 of those categories, so it can interact with Thunder God Vine in 2 different ways. We’ve listed each one below — your overall risk is driven by the most serious of them (Moderate).

Moderate

CYTOCHROME P450 3A4 (CYP3A4) SUBSTRATES

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Why this applies to Temsirolimus

Temsirolimus falls under CYTOCHROME P450 3A4 (CYP3A4) SUBSTRATES — the group Thunder God Vine interacts with.

Theoretically, thunder god vine might increase the levels and clinical effects of CYP3A4 substrates.
In vitro research shows that triptolide, a constituent of thunder god vine, inhibits CYP3A4 enzymes in human microsomes. This interaction has not been reported in humans.
Severity Moderate Likelihood Possible Evidence D

Interaction has been documented in animal or in lab research, or the interaction has been documented in humans but is limited to case reports or conflicting clinical research exists.

Dr. Brian Staiger, PharmD, BCPS
Dr. Brian Staiger explains PharmD, Clinical Pharmacist

Here's the gist for Temsirolimus (Torisel). Your body relies on a liver enzyme called CYP3A4 to help clear this cancer drug from your system. Lab studies suggest a compound in Thunder God Vine called triptolide may slow that enzyme down. If it does, temsirolimus could build up a bit higher than expected, which might mean stronger side effects like mouth sores, rash, fatigue, low blood counts, or raised blood sugar and cholesterol.

I want to be honest about the evidence though. This is theoretical, based on test-tube work, and hasn't actually been reported in people. Still, since temsirolimus is a serious chemo drug and Thunder God Vine can be toxic on its own, please don't combine them without first checking with your oncologist or pharmacist.

References
  1. Song W, Liu M, Wu J, Zhai H, Chen Y, Peng Z. Preclinical Pharmacokinetics of Triptolide: A Potential Antitumor Drug. Curr Drug Metab. 2019;20(2):147-154. PubMed
Moderate

IMMUNOSUPPRESSANTS

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Temsirolimus also falls under IMMUNOSUPPRESSANTS.

Theoretically, thunder god vine might enhance the effects of immunosuppressant drugs.
Large doses of thunder god vine may suppress immune function.
Severity Moderate Likelihood Possible Evidence D

Interaction has been documented in animal or in lab research, or the interaction has been documented in humans but is limited to case reports or conflicting clinical research exists.

Dr. Brian Staiger, PharmD, BCPS
Dr. Brian Staiger explains PharmD, Clinical Pharmacist

Here's the thing about pairing Thunder God Vine with Temsirolimus (Torisel). Temsirolimus already calms down the immune system as part of how it fights kidney cancer, and Thunder God Vine appears to do something similar, especially in larger or concentrated doses. So the concern is additive: stacking two immune-quieting agents could push your immune system down further than intended, which may raise the risk of infections or worsen the low blood counts and fatigue that already come with this medication.

I'll be honest, this warning is theoretical, based on how the herb behaves rather than hard studies in people on Temsirolimus. Still, since this is serious cancer therapy and Thunder God Vine itself can be toxic if dosed wrong, please run it by your oncologist or pharmacist before combining them.

References
  1. Zhen QS, Ye X, Wei ZJ. Recent progress in research on Tripterygium: a male antifertility plant. Contraception 1995;51:121-9.. PubMed
  2. Chen Y, Lu M, Feng Y, Gao Q. The effect and safety of low-dose Tripterygium wilfordii in patients with type 2 diabetic nephropathy: A meta-analysis. Medicine (Baltimore) 2022;101(52):e32504. PubMed

What These Ratings Mean

Every interaction above is graded three ways — here’s the key to each label.

Severity how clinically significant the interaction is
Major

Clinically significant. Avoid the combination, or use only under close professional supervision.

Moderate

Usually worth avoiding or managing — may need monitoring, a dose change, or timing apart.

Minor

Generally not serious. Be aware of it and mention it to your pharmacist.

Likelihood how strong the evidence is that the interaction actually happens in people
  • LikelyWell-controlled human studies have demonstrated the likely existence of this interaction.
  • ProbableInteraction has not been documented in well-controlled studies, however, the interaction has been demonstrated in some small human studies or in controlled animal studies in conjunction with multiple case reports.
  • PossibleInteraction has been documented in animal or in lab research, or the interaction has been documented in humans but is limited to case reports or conflicting clinical research exists.
  • UnlikelyInteraction has been demonstrated in animal or in lab research but has been shown not to occur in humans.
Evidence the quality of the studies behind the rating (graded A–D)
  • AHigh-quality meta-analysis (quantitative systematic review).
  • BCase-control study.
  • CConsensus.
  • DAnecdotal evidence.

These ratings are for information only. Never start, stop, or otherwise change your therapy before speaking with your provider.

Keep it in perspective

Thunder God Vine Also Interacts With Other Medications

Thunder God Vine has 848 moderate known drug interactions in our database — the Temsirolimus one above is among them. If you take anything else, check it against the full list below.

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See Every Supplement That Interacts With Temsirolimus

This page covers Thunder God Vine only. If you take other supplements — a multivitamin, a sleep aid, something for joints — the Temsirolimus page lists 169 supplements it has a documented interaction with, worst first, each one explained.

The most serious there right now: Asarabacca (major), Grapefruit (major), Siberian Cocklebur (major), St. John's Wort (major) and Acacia Rigidula (moderate).

By severity: 4 major · 135 moderate · 30 minor.

From our pharmacist’s overview on the Temsirolimus page

“Temsirolimus (Torisel), an infusion for advanced kidney cancer, deserves genuine wariness around supplements. Most interactions on record involve herbs that alter CYP3A4, the liver enzyme that clears the drug, so a capsule can quietly raise its levels and side effects or thin out its anticancer effect.”

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Where Thunder God Vine and Temsirolimus Sit Against Everything Else

Out of every supplement and medication people look up on HelloPharmacist, here is where these two land this week — and which way each has been moving.

Supplement Thunder God Vine
Steady interest

#1,143 of 1,452 supplements looked up here in the last 7 days

29 days ago today
Medication Temsirolimus
Top half

#1,087 of 2,830 medications looked up here in the last 7 days

29 days ago today

Position among everything looked up on this site, not a measure of how commonly either one is used or how important it is. A supplement can climb this list because of a news story. It counts every request to the page, automated ones included, and nothing here identifies anyone.

Supplement

About Thunder God Vine

What is Thunder God Vine?

Thunder God Vine
  • Rheumatoid arthritis
  • Lupus and autoimmune conditions
  • Inflammation
  • Skin conditions like psoriasis
  • Immune-related disorders

Thunder God Vine is a Chinese herb studied mainly for rheumatoid arthritis and other autoimmune conditions, with some promising but limited evidence. It can be toxic if prepared or dosed improperly, and may cause serious side effects, so it should only be used under medical supervision. Avoid it during pregnancy and breastfeeding.

Read the full Thunder God Vine monograph & all interactions
Medication

About Temsirolimus

What Is Temsirolimus Used For?

Brand name: Torisel

Temsirolimus injection is approved to treat advanced renal cell carcinoma (a form of kidney cancer that has spread or cannot be removed by surgery). Both the brand-name product Torisel and generic temsirolimus injection share this indication.

See full Temsirolimus drug information
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Other Drugs & Thunder God Vine

Browse every other medication we’ve checked against Thunder God Vine — both the ones with a known interaction and the ones without. Select any drug for the full detail.

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848Moderate
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1,981No known interaction
Moderate

848 interactions

Showing 60 of 848 moderate interactions — see all 848 on the Thunder God Vine page.

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Sources & How We Checked

Interaction details are evidence-graded and sourced from the Natural Medicines database. The medication overview comes from MedlinePlus.

Content is written and reviewed by licensed HelloPharmacist pharmacists. See our data sources and editorial standards for how this information is built and checked.

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DISCLAIMER: Currently this does not check for drug-drug interactions. This is not an all-inclusive comprehensive list of potential interactions and is for informational purposes only. Not all interactions are known or well-reported in the scientific literature, and new interactions are continually being reported. Input is needed from a qualified healthcare provider including a pharmacist before starting any therapy. Application of clinical judgment is necessary.

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Taking Thunder God Vine and Temsirolimus Together: Common Questions

Can you take Thunder God Vine with Temsirolimus?
There is a moderate interaction, so it may be acceptable with monitoring or timing changes — but check with your pharmacist first. Read the full details on this page and confirm with your pharmacist before combining them.
Why are there 2 interactions listed for Thunder God Vine and Temsirolimus?
Temsirolimus belongs to more than one drug category, and Thunder God Vine interacts with each of those categories a little differently. We list every one so nothing is missed — your overall risk is driven by the most serious of them.
How serious is the Thunder God Vine and Temsirolimus interaction?
We rate it Moderate. This combination may require monitoring, a dose adjustment, or separating the times you take each one. Consult your pharmacist before using them together.

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