Drug & supplement interaction

Thunder God Vine + Isoniazid, Rifampin

Isoniazid, Rifampin brand name: Rifamate.

Moderate Interaction
The bottom line Moderate

Thunder God Vine has a moderate interaction with Isoniazid, Rifampin. Theoretically, CYP3A4 inhibitors might increase the levels and adverse effects of thunder god vine constituents.

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SeverityModerate
LikelihoodPossible
EvidenceD
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Thunder God Vine and Isoniazid, Rifampin

Here is the interaction we found between these two, with the evidence behind it.

Moderate

CYTOCHROME P450 3A4 (CYP3A4) INHIBITORS

Why this applies to Isoniazid, Rifampin

Isoniazid, Rifampin falls under CYTOCHROME P450 3A4 (CYP3A4) INHIBITORS — the group Thunder God Vine interacts with.

Theoretically, CYP3A4 inhibitors might increase the levels and adverse effects of thunder god vine constituents.
Inhibitors of CYP3A4 can increase the concentration of triptolide, a thunder god vine constituent, and its derivative (5R)-5-hydroxytriptolide. In vitro research shows that triptolide and (5R)-5-hydroxytriptolide are about 94% and 64% metabolized by CYP3A4, respectively.
Severity Moderate Likelihood Possible Evidence D

Interaction has been documented in animal or in lab research, or the interaction has been documented in humans but is limited to case reports or conflicting clinical research exists.

Dr. Brian Staiger, PharmD, BCPS
Dr. Brian Staiger explains PharmD, Clinical Pharmacist

Here's the wrinkle with this combo: the interaction on file is about a drug that blocks the liver enzyme CYP3A4, which would let Thunder God Vine's active compounds (like triptolide) build up and raise your odds of side effects. But Rifamate is a mix of isoniazid and rifampin, and rifampin actually does the opposite of most of the time. It's a strong inducer of CYP3A4, meaning it tends to speed up clearance of those herbal compounds, not slow it down. Isoniazid can mildly inhibit some enzymes, so the net effect is genuinely hard to predict.

This is all theoretical and based on lab data, so please don't panic. Still, Thunder God Vine itself can be liver-toxic, and so can isoniazid and rifampin, so stacking them is a real concern. Please check with your doctor or pharmacist before combining them.

References
  1. Xu Y, Zhang YF, Chen XY, Zhong DF. CYP3A4 inducer and inhibitor strongly affect the pharmacokinetics of triptolide and its derivative in rats. Acta Pharmacol Sin. 2018;39(8):1386-1392. PubMed

What These Ratings Mean

Every interaction above is graded three ways — here’s the key to each label.

Severity how clinically significant the interaction is
Major

Clinically significant. Avoid the combination, or use only under close professional supervision.

Moderate

Usually worth avoiding or managing — may need monitoring, a dose change, or timing apart.

Minor

Generally not serious. Be aware of it and mention it to your pharmacist.

Likelihood how strong the evidence is that the interaction actually happens in people
  • LikelyWell-controlled human studies have demonstrated the likely existence of this interaction.
  • ProbableInteraction has not been documented in well-controlled studies, however, the interaction has been demonstrated in some small human studies or in controlled animal studies in conjunction with multiple case reports.
  • PossibleInteraction has been documented in animal or in lab research, or the interaction has been documented in humans but is limited to case reports or conflicting clinical research exists.
  • UnlikelyInteraction has been demonstrated in animal or in lab research but has been shown not to occur in humans.
Evidence the quality of the studies behind the rating (graded A–D)
  • AHigh-quality meta-analysis (quantitative systematic review).
  • BCase-control study.
  • CConsensus.
  • DAnecdotal evidence.

These ratings are for information only. Never start, stop, or otherwise change your therapy before speaking with your provider.

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Thunder God Vine Also Interacts With Other Medications

Thunder God Vine has 848 moderate known drug interactions in our database — the Isoniazid, Rifampin one above is one of them. If you take anything else, check it against the full list below.

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See Every Supplement That Interacts With Isoniazid, Rifampin

This page covers Thunder God Vine only. If you take other supplements — a multivitamin, a sleep aid, something for joints — the Isoniazid, Rifampin page lists 145 supplements it has a documented interaction with, worst first, each one explained.

The most serious there right now: Activated Charcoal (major), Apple (major), Asarabacca (major), Beer (major) and Grapefruit (major).

By severity: 8 major · 117 moderate · 20 minor.

From our pharmacist’s overview on the Isoniazid, Rifampin page

“Rifamate combines isoniazid and rifampin, the backbone of tuberculosis treatment, and both drugs are hard on the liver, which is why this list of 145 supplement and herbal interactions deserves genuine respect. Eight entries rate major, and the largest cluster, 38 ingredients, adds to that same liver strain, with alcohol in beer or win…”

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Where Thunder God Vine and Isoniazid, Rifampin Sit Against Everything Else

Out of every supplement and medication people look up on HelloPharmacist, here is where these two land this week — and which way each has been moving.

Supplement Thunder God Vine
Steady interest

#995 of 1,452 supplements looked up here in the last 7 days

29 days ago today
Medication Isoniazid, Rifampin
Top half

#747 of 2,830 medications looked up here in the last 7 days

29 days ago today

Position among everything looked up on this site, not a measure of how commonly either one is used or how important it is. A supplement can climb this list because of a news story. It counts every request to the page, automated ones included, and nothing here identifies anyone.

Supplement

About Thunder God Vine

What is Thunder God Vine?

Thunder God Vine
  • Rheumatoid arthritis
  • Lupus and autoimmune conditions
  • Inflammation
  • Skin conditions like psoriasis
  • Immune-related disorders

Thunder God Vine is a Chinese herb studied mainly for rheumatoid arthritis and other autoimmune conditions, with some promising but limited evidence. It can be toxic if prepared or dosed improperly, and may cause serious side effects, so it should only be used under medical supervision. Avoid it during pregnancy and breastfeeding.

Read the full Thunder God Vine monograph & all interactions
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Other Drugs & Thunder God Vine

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848 interactions

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Sources & How We Checked

Interaction details are evidence-graded and sourced from the Natural Medicines database. The medication overview comes from MedlinePlus.

Content is written and reviewed by licensed HelloPharmacist pharmacists. See our data sources and editorial standards for how this information is built and checked.

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DISCLAIMER: Currently this does not check for drug-drug interactions. This is not an all-inclusive comprehensive list of potential interactions and is for informational purposes only. Not all interactions are known or well-reported in the scientific literature, and new interactions are continually being reported. Input is needed from a qualified healthcare provider including a pharmacist before starting any therapy. Application of clinical judgment is necessary.

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Taking Thunder God Vine and Isoniazid, Rifampin Together: Common Questions

Can you take Thunder God Vine with Isoniazid, Rifampin?
There is a moderate interaction, so it may be acceptable with monitoring or timing changes — but check with your pharmacist first. Read the full details on this page and confirm with your pharmacist before combining them.
How serious is the Thunder God Vine and Isoniazid, Rifampin interaction?
We rate it Moderate. This combination may require monitoring, a dose adjustment, or separating the times you take each one. Consult your pharmacist before using them together.

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